Heroic Dose and You. Are You Ready for Them?

Heroic Dose and You. Are You Ready for Them? Posted on January 02nd, 2011 by in Psychedelics with [fetching…]

If you’ve never heard of the term, a heroic dose is just a high dose of a psychedelic. It is past the tipping point into the void. At a heroic dosage level you will not know who you are, where you are or how you got there. At this point, you are in a timeless vortex with all sorts of possibilities.

A heroic dose is for everyone, but not at first. You need to gradually work your way up to a heroic dose, in order to understand the feel of the psychedelic. But in the end a heroic dose is, we feel, a necessity in psychedelic exploration.

What are some examples of a heroic dose?

The term “heroic dose” was originally for psilocybin mushrooms but it can be applied to any psychedelic:

  • Psilocybin Mushrooms: 5 or more grams of potent mushrooms
  • LSD: 4 or more tabs, or 400+ug, of potent LSD
  • DMT: 60+mg

And so and so forth. Put simply, it is the strong threshold level of a psychedelic dosage. A heroic dose will generally come up extremely fast and the peak will last for a little bit longer than usual, with the come down quite normal and gradual.

What are the effects of a heroic dose?

Every psychedelic is different but there are few generalizations that we can make. First, your visuals will take over your reality and you will not immediately know whether or not your eyes are open or closed. It’s best to keep your eyes closed because of this.

Second, your senses are completely intermixed with each other and you will feel as if you have no body. You will be thrown into nothingness, in both thought and sense.

Last but not least, you will not be able to comprehend everyday language, in neither thought nor spoken. Words will become meaningless noise and thoughts will become tangled in themselves. It’s best to let your mind wander along with the void and let the journey take you wherever it is that you need to go.

You may see many things with CEV’s such as entities, other worlds/realities, hyperspace and much more. You will experience only abstract thought and ideas which cannot be translated to language easily. The definitions created in hyperspace are everchanging and you are not permitted to place a static idea on what you experience. Your experiences under a heroic dose will vary depending on your competence, past experiences, set/setting and general goals.

The competence is to be understanding during your trip and to let go of yourself; to immerse yourself in the experience as a whole. Any past experiences with psychedelics will help you understand that these “drugs” are not harmful, for they are medicine.

Set/setting are extremely important in a heroic dose; so much so that if you do not obey set/setting then you are surely to be in for an uncomfortable experience.

Your goals will be wiped away clean for the duration of the trip, for you will have forgotten everything about yourself but you may still look back on the experience once it’s over and see if you’ve met your goals.

Why do a heroic dose?

There are many reasons for going to the heroic level; such as wanting to understand the fabrics of the soul, the universe, and just for general curiosity. It deeply cleanses the soul and keeps the ego at bay. Ego death at a heroic dose level is nearly unnoticeable because it happens so fast and the ego is unable to hold onto itself.

If you want a very significant life changing event in your life then a heroic dose will certainly do it. But tread carefully because it is the core behind all of the psychedelic experiences. Heroic doses generally give people the same trip because they all have something, usually simple, to show us. It does not take your personal problems into play for they are an illusion — it shows you reality as it truly is.

If you are interested in life, as you probably are, then you should look more into heroic doses. It will change your perspective on life, for the good, for as long as you are on Earth in this lifetime.

So what’s an example of proper set/setting and dose?

Proper set/setting is more important than the psychedelic itself for it curves the experience nearly 99%. If you are uncomfortable then your trip will be uncomfortable, it’s as simple as that.

An example would be to prepare 5 grams of hallucinogenic mushrooms for the night, in your own home. Eat light and healthy, drink plenty of water and keep yourself feeling clean for the day. Prepare ambient music or melodic, lyricless, trance and then take your mushrooms with a glass of orange juice or something else to chase them with.

Once ingested please turn on your prepared playlist and turn off all of the lights. Lay down in your bed and meditate, you shall have no thoughts from here on out. Lay there in peace, for the show will begin soon.

The peak will come very fast, but if you are properly prepared it will not come startlingly. It will be extravagant and overwhelming but you will be in a trance-like state so it is as if you had been prepared for this moment all of your life.

You will not experience any panic if you properly prepare because your senses and your thoughts will be at ease. The psychedelic will understand your dedication and will not be harsh to you. Panic will most definitely come, however, if you have shortsighted or mis-planned your ventures and/or have rushed the experience instead of having been patient.

Patience will get you there much faster than impatience, remember that for the rest of your life.

Our conclusion

Heroic doses aren’t necessarily heroic at all, because they really are a natural part of life itself. Weaker doses are the stepping stones to a heroic dose, and that is their purpose. They guide you into the readiness for a heroic dosage — if you’ve ever done less than a heroic dose you will understand this.

It’s as if you are “almost” at the threshold of enlightenment and everything but you cannot reach there, simply because of the dose. Heroic doses are the trip.

Respect the psychedelic, take care, caution and you will have an extraordinary experience. What are some of your experiences with heroic doses? Are you interested in doing one?

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13 responses to “Heroic Dose and You. Are You Ready for Them?”

  1. IndigoVision says:

    Hello, I really found this article helpful! I have dosed with mush 5 times and they (along with a wonderful friend) introduced me to spirituality. The most I have taken so far is 4grams. It has been one year since I’ve tripped. I plan on taking 6grams in three weeks and I feel I will be able to handle it due to the fact that I understand these plants are teachers. I will be making a list of goals for this trip. However, I have a couple questions. I know how important set and setting are and I was planning on going camping and being completely immersed in nature. In this article you strongly recommend doing this in one’s own home. Do you feel that nature is not a great place for such a strong dose? My feelings have always been that these things are better in nature. I feel more free and I like being in the presence of the natural world. After all, we’re creatures of mother earth. My second questions pertains to music. You recommend music without lyrics. Why is that? Do you think just listening to the sounds of nature and no music is adequate? Thank you

  2. GroovyMan says:

    This article basically told me what I already knew, but couldn’t verbalize. The heroic dose is what introduced me to nature, mother, god. Through it I discovered that I am one with the universe, and all things. It brought me inner peace through meditation and contemplation. Thank you for posting.

  3. Almimat says:

    If you do a less than a heroic dose, is it still advised to have the darkness, full comfort or music for the experience? If a first time using shrooms was at a large, quiet reserve, so nature and peace are present anyway, would this be good for small amounts?

  4. Shroomer says:

    Just took 7g mushrooms. 1st time for hero dose.

    I’ll leave this here and follow up if I remember.

  5. Roland Keyes says:

    Have done heroic doses with all the above mentioned. First was LSD I started off the first time sitting for my friends. The very next day I tripped by myself with 1 Felix the cat double dipped blotter. The second time I took 2 the third time I took 4 eventually my friends and I got up to 10 strips on a regular basis like every weekend for three years. In total my LSD honeymoon lasted about 5 years. On NYE for 1997 I decided to take over 30 hits and I definitely do not recommend anyone try that. I had an extremely long peak and I blacked out several times. I didn’t faint, I just don’t remember what I was doing. Well, I do remember what I was doing but it doesn’t match what my friends say happened. It was the most amazing adventure and I’m happy to report that I survived it without sustaining any psychological issues.

    With DMT I took the 5th hit and broke through to witness tiny little elve like creatures that were holding me up. The carpet I was on was not a carpet it was hundreds of thousands of little elves holding hands struggling to hold my weight. I could see the details of how their tiny faces strained every time I took a step.

    On mushrooms I was a bit more cautious but eventually I reached a little over 7 dried grams. I treat mushrooms with great respect and take them in ceremony during the full moon.

    LSD came into my life at the age of 15 and I had a lasting love affair with LSD. I discovered mushrooms one year later at the age of 16 but stuck to LSD up into my 20’s. I had DMT when I was in my late 20’s and rekindled my relationship with mushrooms in my mid 30’s.

    Through out my life I realize that I have been able to solve problems with greater ease than the people around me. For example, I took a job at UPS when I was 20. My first day on the job I pushed my water bottle into a hole on my unload device. My manager came and said, “wow I’ve been here 10 years and in 10 years I have seen guys put their water bottles on top of the device and they just end up losing their water bottles when they fall onto the conveyor belt. Everyone else just takes their water bottles into each truck. Here you are on your first day and you just stick your bottle in the unload device. Amazing.” I received 7 promotions in 2 years at UPS because of my natural ability to solve problems with ease.

    Psychedelics definitely improve cognitive functions and help with creative problem solving. That is only one example of many of how psychedelics have improved the quality of my life.

  6. Daniel S Lennox says:

    Hi all, I just want to ask if someone ever tried using shrooms or truffles for medical purposes? I was reading some articles about this magic truffles and shrooms before engaging my self for the first time. Like this one from:https://www.trufflemagic.com/blog/what-are-magic-truffles/ .They say that it has a very potent effect on the brain and hallucination. Unlike marijuana does it have any medical use? In one article that I’ve read magic truffles or shrooms compaired to synthetic drugs are very alarming. Also magic mushroom are use on reducing the symptoms of obsessive-compulsive disorder and anxiety. It can also help people to quit smoking and alcohol addiction. Some studies also suggest the property of magic shrooms/truffles can be useful for cancer patients. I would really want to hear other insights regarding this new possible alternative meds. Thanks

  7. Collin says:

    So last night was my 2nd time doing shrooms I ate like 6 to 6 1/2g my first time I took A cut but this time was special and terrifying.. at first it was great we watched Koyaanisqatsi and it was good but then I started questioning why I was doing things like snapping it or why I make people laugh because why dose it matter but I couldn’t get the words out of my mouth they kept floating in my head in a loop like a broken record.. then I start pacing around the house asking my girl if she’s gonna be mad at me and telling her I love her over and over and over.. they say my eyes where huge and I had this scared expression on my face and my eyes where shaking.. I felt like god anything I did happened any where I thought I was I ended up at if I told myself I was eating drinking or smoking a cigarette I was and made the motion in mid air but I thought I actually was we got in the ktchen my gf watching me I just kept staring at this knife I kept having to touch myself to bring me to reality like my hair I kept saying sorry I was wondering what’s the point of life is it even real or do u just see what your mind and consciousness and ego want you to see? We got upstairs I kept looking at the clock and repeating the time then she turned the clocks around and then I kept asking what the time was.. I think it brought out all my deep repressed worried and fears like upsetting my gf and school and work and made me at peace with them I always just pushed them down… is this normal? I feel refreshed and can appreciate the small things of life again the next day it was fucking terrifying I felt to lonely and naked in there just darkness spinning around….

    • clickhand says:

      You were trying to do things. That’s the problem. You can’t “do” you can only “be”. That’s why it’s so important to lay down in a dark place and not interact with others. You shouldn’t have taken a higher dose of you wanted to socialize.

  8. Michael says:

    Hey… I’ve been doing a lot of research lately about Psilocybin Mushrooms and stumbling across this article has told me everything I wanted to know and more (not that I knew nothing).

    But I currently have 5.9/6grams of dried Psilocybin Mushrooms,(*if weighed on a 0.0gram kitchen scale*, which apparently isn’t as accurate as a 0.00gram scale), but I’m wanting to take about 7.25 – 8 grams.

    Because I’m wanting to experience something that will change my life and show me things that will change me as a person and help cleanse my soul and mind.

    Do you have anything you’d like to tell me to prepare me for something like this (when I decide the time is right) or any words of wisdom from experience that could help me make my experience unforgettable?

    (I am an 18 year old boy living in South Africa)

    • Andrew says:

      To the South African, I’m not sure if you’ve had prior experiences with mushrooms or psychedelics before but from your wording I couldn’t tell. If this is your first time I would highly advise against such a high dose as you wouldn’t have any prior experience to fall back on and use to help through your journey. It’s like going on a long hiking journey and never having hiked the route before. It’s not advisable to just jump into such an intense journey as a heroic dose. Of course if you have had prior experiences and you think you’re ready then ignore me and trust your gut.

  9. […] human ego is to convince us we’re special; that nature exists only to please us. One hero’s journey with some suitably potent Psilocybin mushrooms is enough to lay bare the absurdity of this […]

  10. Hi Michael, I’m just going through the heroic journeys on here and thought I ask your trip went. I’m also in SA.

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